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Copha in Chocolate Crackles - Is it bad?

  • 02 Nov 2010 9:27 PM
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    I have looked up Copha in the internet and it seems that copha is hydrogenated coconut oil. Aren't hydrogenated oils trans fats?.  I only found this out when I decided to try and cut out as much trans fats as possible as well as going fructose free.
    Last modified: 02 Nov 2010 9:27 PM | Deleted user
  • 07 Nov 2010 4:58 AM
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    Suzanne Ausburn wrote: I have looked up Copha in the internet and it seems that copha is hydrogenated coconut oil. Aren't hydrogenated oils trans fats?.  I only found this out when I decided to try and cut out as much trans fats as possible as well as going fructose free.


    Its a reasonable point Suzanne ... I'll look into it and report back.

    Cheers

    David.
  • 14 Nov 2010 9:44 PM
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    Yep I saw this too, I wonder if you can just good old butter or nuttelex since it's a butter made from nuts instead :)
  • 15 Nov 2010 12:15 AM
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    I wonder if cocoa butter would be ok as it has a similar melting point to  copha (naturally).  Think I will try some chocolate crackles with cocoa butter and see how they turn out.  Coconut oil would be too soft as it melts in the hand.
  • 16 Nov 2010 7:32 PM
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    Just a comment on Nuttelex and it's my personal opinion but I'd avoid Nuttelex like the plague as it and other margarines have been linked in some studies to Macular Degeneration. 

    Though this is a contentious issue, I believe them -  my Mum used it for years (thinking she was doing the right thing for Cholesterol) and now has MD. Never been a smoker in her life (which is one of the main causes of MD). No other history of it in the family.

     

    Maybe a combo of coconut butter and coconut oil would work for the crackles.
  • 19 Nov 2010 8:34 PM
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    Copha is hydrogenated Coconut Oil and at face value hydrogenating polyunstaurates is bad because it produces some trans fatty acids as a byproduct. 

    But Coconut Oil is 92.2% saturated fat, 6.2% monounsaturated fat and 1.6% polyunsaturated ... so the hydrogenation is acting on a very small part of the overall total and is therefore unlikely to produce large quantitiies of trans fatty acids.  Nonetheless it deserves further research and I'll look into it (and possible alternatives) further.

    Cheers

    David.
  • 21 Nov 2010 1:45 AM
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    David, I found this article on the mayo clinic website http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/trans-fat/cl00032 down towards the end of the article. I don't know if copha is fully hydrogenated, I emailed  the company that makes copha about the trans fat situation, but got no reply. It would be nice to know what the n/a really means.

    "It sounds counterintuitive, but "fully" or "completely" hydrogenated oil doesn't contain trans fat. Unlike partially hydrogenated oil, the process used to make fully or completely hydrogenated oil doesn't result in trans-fatty acids. However, if the label says just "hydrogenated" vegetable oil, it could mean the oil contains some trans fat."
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