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  • 23 Jul 2012 9:16 PM
    Message # 1017843
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    Ok so after going to the shops again and looking down the health food section and going to the actual health food shop I am completely mortified that the government etc who come up with these rediculous prices are able to justify these inflations.  I bought some cocoa butter from the health food store - 500g was $34.95  that is an absolutely bloody rip off.  (I bought it anyway cause im dying to try making my own chocolate)  When I was in the supermarket I got some more cocoa powder and saw the cocao powder which was $5 dearer and exactly the same ingredients so I bought the cheaper one. 

    It just makes my blood boil that they complain about us having an overweight and unhealthy world yet they can still charge three times the amount for fresh fruit, veges, meat, and other sugar free alternatives and charge these rediculous prices.  I remember seeing an ad for McDonalds for example - they charge something like $20 for a 'family meal' and yet you try and do the right thing and buy say a chicken and salad sandwich only to have it cost you $8 minimum and a bottle of water around the $3 mark, its a bloody joke.  What can we possibly do about it? 

    We are getting fatter and unhealthier and dying but they continue to make the things we need like sunscreen, condoms, fruit and veges so much more expensive than the bad crap, I just don't get it.  I know they probably make a shitload of money off it the bad stuff but surely someone can do something? 

    RANT over :)  lol
  • 25 Jul 2012 4:50 PM
    Reply # 1019554 on 1017843
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    Everything costs as much as people will pay for it.  You don't need the health food isle, not really.  It's always going to be over priced.  I just buy fresh veg ( I also grow my own ) and meat ( I also grow my own :P ), and that's close to it.  I still think that it makes no sense to make chocolate, unless you're just dying to try, because there are good sugar free alternatives.

    Be careful though, I paid $8 for 45g of 'sugar free' chocolate and it was sweetened with agave.  Lots of 'sugar free' stuff is not sugar free, that's why it's good to know the products that are ( for example with bread ) and buy as much whole food as you can.


  • 25 Jul 2012 5:58 PM
    Reply # 1019604 on 1017843
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    well I have discovered (but really always knew) im an all or nothing girl so having these treats are a bad idea for me - I can make the icecream and have it occasionally but when it comes to the chocolate and lollies I can't stop eating it, so best not make it I guess because I'm going crazy for it, its stupid and I didn't want to be a slave to sugar anymore but here I am eating large quantities of the 'dextrose' sugar like a mad woman!
  • 25 Jul 2012 7:46 PM
    Reply # 1019638 on 1017843
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    *grin* the thing is, dextrose feeds the sugar craving, without the addiction.  It's a valid way to wean yourself off sugar, just like the diet drinks that David said he drank a lot of while in withdrawal.  But yes, the goal would be to stop having so much of them, in time, and dextrose should only be used when you're completely sugar free, not if you're 'weaning'.

  • 27 Jul 2012 11:54 PM
    Reply # 1024203 on 1017843
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    Christian,

    I have gained almost a kg this week lol and im betting it has everything to do with the fact I've eaten almost all the chocolate I made.  I couldn't stop eating it, I just wanted more and more and more so I kept eating it - so im not going to be making it anymore.

    I wasn't weaning myself of sugar I have just cut it out like suggested and having under 10g per day so im not sure why Im reacting like that.  I just know that it was no different with the dextrose to the actual sugar wanting it wise
  • 28 Jul 2012 2:08 AM
    Reply # 1024290 on 1017843
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    *grin* well, sounds like it was nice then...  Yes, I do go through times where I make more dextrose sweets than others.  Craving it due to addiction, and wanting to eat it because it's nice, are not the same.  I can tell the difference, but I still want sweets sometimes.  Have you considered having a dextrose sweet say once a week, and then holding off for that day when you're tempted on other days ?
  • 01 Aug 2012 6:39 AM
    Reply # 1027598 on 1024290
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    Christian Graus wrote:*grin* well, sounds like it was nice then...  Yes, I do go through times where I make more dextrose sweets than others.  Craving it due to addiction, and wanting to eat it because it's nice, are not the same.  I can tell the difference, but I still want sweets sometimes.  Have you considered having a dextrose sweet say once a week, and then holding off for that day when you're tempted on other days ?
    Im still struggling to be honest, it was a lot easier in the first two weeks than it is now after day 14 I went to my girlfriends house where I had this overwhelming urge to have chocolate and the real stuff so I had a few bites of her freckles or something like that and ever since I can't seem to get back on track.  I made home made chocolate twice and basically ate the lot so im not making anymore but I am just finding myself constantly wanting to eat something sweet and sneaking some things if I go out for lunch which is making me eat more during the day.  Im not sure what to do or how to get back on track, all I know is that I want something naughty and to eat all the time, hungry or not and its really hard to just say your not hungry cut it out.  Any suggestions?  Im hoping this has a lot to do with winter and the need to have warm comfort food and minimal exercise because I have already done a lot of hard work losing the weight I did before I started this but now im floundering and terrified I will gain it all back and more.
  • 02 Aug 2012 12:30 AM
    Reply # 1028339 on 1017843
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    Sadly, nutrition is not the only reason we eat.  Sometimes we eat for comfort, or for how it makes us feel.  If you fall in to that category, then your appetite control is not going to help.  I'm not really sure what to suggest except, make sure there's nothing bad to eat in the house, so that a momentary temptation is harder to act on, and prepare yourself for outings where you know there will be things you don't want to eat.  Make yourself one really nice dextrose sweet a week ( but make sure you can have it gone that night, the point is to have one treat a week to look forward to ).  I am a guy, as you know, but I do think the book suffers from a male perspective, because I get the impression that ladies are far more likely to have these sort of issues ( although I'll put my hand up and say that there are times when I whip up a quick dextrose sweet to over come the cravings that arise ).

    The most important thing is, you don't fail until you stop trying.  If you make a mistake, learn from it and keep working at it.  That's not failure, that's constant improvement and working to your goal.

  • 02 Aug 2012 5:52 PM
    Reply # 1035096 on 1028339
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    Christian Graus wrote:Sadly, nutrition is not the only reason we eat.  Sometimes we eat for comfort, or for how it makes us feel.  If you fall in to that category, then your appetite control is not going to help.  I'm not really sure what to suggest except, make sure there's nothing bad to eat in the house, so that a momentary temptation is harder to act on, and prepare yourself for outings where you know there will be things you don't want to eat.  Make yourself one really nice dextrose sweet a week ( but make sure you can have it gone that night, the point is to have one treat a week to look forward to ).  I am a guy, as you know, but I do think the book suffers from a male perspective, because I get the impression that ladies are far more likely to have these sort of issues ( although I'll put my hand up and say that there are times when I whip up a quick dextrose sweet to over come the cravings that arise ).

    The most important thing is, you don't fail until you stop trying.  If you make a mistake, learn from it and keep working at it.  That's not failure, that's constant improvement and working to your goal.

    hmm lots to think about Christian, how about you start taking some hormone replacement and then get back to me hahahahahha just kidding but we really are from different planets - men from mars etc lol
  • 02 Aug 2012 7:49 PM
    Reply # 1035164 on 1017843
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    lol Rebecca.  Your still in early days and basically when you cut out all sugar your body is going to start craving it and you will want to eat and eat until you get that sweet taste.  There is a few things you can do, self control, eat what's on your plate (remembering to fill up on protein and fats), or make yourself some dextrose treats to help get through that withdrawal period which is what I done however I only allowed myself 1 a day which was at night after dinner and again it's still about control, only having what's in your bowl/plate.  You will loose that desire for sweet stuff and it happens at different stages for everyone (women of course can be harder).  Hang in there you are doing good!

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