David Gillespie - First week and away we go

21 May 2012 2:35 AM

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OK so this book was given to me by a friend who like me (over 40) finds it impossible to lose weight. Not that we have much to go, just about 5kg each. But budge it wont. For her it's bum fat, for me it's tummy fat. My family is riddled with diabetes that has killed most of us off after we get around 60 so I knew I had an intolerance. Just to prove it I went on a juice diet and even then with minimal fruit juice and normal vege juice I still managed to put on weight. I have always been rather health conscious after coming down from 90kg to 68kg however I have yo yo dieted ever since between 60kg & 68kg. I hope this is going to work for me. I know sugar is my enemy because I'm already having headaches and am depressed, I could cry an ocean. But I'm here for the longrun. I'm not a big meat eater at all and that doesn't seem to matter so long as I have my beloved fruit and veg I'm happy. I am having trouble beleiving I can eat rye bread again but loving the fact anyway. Yoghurt could be my downfall as I love greek yoghurt but need to delve more into those food lists to find out which one I can have if any at all. I'm about to face the dreaded 3pm munchies with a cuppa and maybe a piece of toast but I'm not hungry so won't have it till I am. I would love to be able to ask advice from all you guys and expect that I will need you on a regular basis to help me find the products I like to eat in a low sugar form. BTW measured myself today. Am starting at 68kg, waist of 91cm and fat tummy of 97cm. Will keep this updated with progress, hopefully it's all good news as I've noticed that it isn't always that way for everybody who wants to lose the weight or the inches.

22 May 2012 12:50 AM

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Tracey Williams wrote:OK so this book was given to me by a friend who like me (over 40) finds it impossible to lose weight. Not that we have much to go, just about 5kg each. But budge it wont. For her it's bum fat, for me it's tummy fat. My family is riddled with diabetes that has killed most of us off after we get around 60 so I knew I had an intolerance. Just to prove it I went on a juice diet and even then with minimal fruit juice and normal vege juice I still managed to put on weight. I have always been rather health conscious after coming down from 90kg to 68kg however I have yo yo dieted ever since between 60kg & 68kg. I hope this is going to work for me. I know sugar is my enemy because I'm already having headaches and am depressed, I could cry an ocean. But I'm here for the longrun. I'm not a big meat eater at all and that doesn't seem to matter so long as I have my beloved fruit and veg I'm happy. I am having trouble beleiving I can eat rye bread again but loving the fact anyway. Yoghurt could be my downfall as I love greek yoghurt but need to delve more into those food lists to find out which one I can have if any at all. I'm about to face the dreaded 3pm munchies with a cuppa and maybe a piece of toast but I'm not hungry so won't have it till I am. I would love to be able to ask advice from all you guys and expect that I will need you on a regular basis to help me find the products I like to eat in a low sugar form. BTW measured myself today. Am starting at 68kg, waist of 91cm and fat tummy of 97cm. Will keep this updated with progress, hopefully it's all good news as I've noticed that it isn't always that way for everybody who wants to lose the weight or the inches.

Hi Tracey,

I hope your friend read the book before giving it to you :-) Which book is it? If it's not Sweet Poison Quit Plan I suggest you go buy it and when you've finished reading that, get Big Fat Lies.

Getting off fructose will do a great deal to help avoiding diabetes. I'm sure there will be some genetic disposition to it. But eating fructose can only make it worse.

Don't give yourself a hard time over exercise. There are many good reasons to do it, but losing weight is not one of them.

A "juice diet" is just like a FAT diet - all that fructose ends up as lipids in your blood and fat all over. Two pieces a day (about 100g each) is the recommended daily intake. So stop loving fruit! Go for the vegies instead.

Re the headaches, read the book on withdrawal symptoms. They won't last long.

Don't worry about meat, cheese, dairy products - when your appetite-control system is working again you will just stop eating when you have had enough. You just won't want any more. You need to watch out for hidden sugar though. Yoghurt is OK up to 5% because that's lactose which metabolizes as glucose.

Yes plain toast is a good snack - NOT raisin toast. Most cafe's will serve it if you ask. Cruskits are very good, with a bit of cream cheese. And Arnott's lattice bix are not too bad (11% sugar).

It's a good idea to copy the no-nos lists from the books, especially the types of sugar as they can be very confusing. But generally if you avoid anything over 2% sucrose you should be OK. Become an avid label reader :-)

Good luck.

JohnN

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22 May 2012 8:11 PM

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Hey thanks John,

I must admit I am still easily confused with the labels so the 2% rule is a good one. Although that seems broken when you get to the lattice biks at 11%. I thought the yoghurt below 8% was ok because you had to deduct 4.7% for lactose anyway. I hope I've got all this right.

I have restricted my fruit intake to two pieces for breakfast with yoghurt & seeds which is working for me. I am loving being able to eat bread again which is a real treat. I made the chocolate icecream last night but as you said, after 4 teaspoons of the stuff I just didn't want anymore, I found it sweet enough with the dextrose but I just didn't want anymore.

On a high today because I have already lost 2kg in a few days and the side effects have left already. No more headaches. In fact the visit to the chiropractor probably had something to do with that too.

I am going onto the forum now to find what I can about sauces as I have to have sauce on everything. Always liked my food wet so need to do some research there. I'm a good cook though so making my own isn't a problem, always preferred it that way actually.

I would appreciate however the name of a 'safe' greek yoghurt I can buy as I absolutely love the stuff on my pizza.

Thanks again John. Appreciate your time and helpfulness.

Tracey.

23 May 2012 5:13 AM

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Tracey Williams wrote:
Hey thanks John,

I must admit I am still easily confused with the labels so the 2% rule is a good one. Although that seems broken when you get to the lattice biks at 11%. I thought the yoghurt below 8% was ok because you had to deduct 4.7% for lactose anyway. I hope I've got all this right.

I have restricted my fruit intake to two pieces for breakfast with yoghurt & seeds which is working for me. I am loving being able to eat bread again which is a real treat. I made the chocolate icecream last night but as you said, after 4 teaspoons of the stuff I just didn't want anymore, I found it sweet enough with the dextrose but I just didn't want anymore.

On a high today because I have already lost 2kg in a few days and the side effects have left already. No more headaches. In fact the visit to the chiropractor probably had something to do with that too.

I am going onto the forum now to find what I can about sauces as I have to have sauce on everything. Always liked my food wet so need to do some research there. I'm a good cook though so making my own isn't a problem, always preferred it that way actually.

I would appreciate however the name of a 'safe' greek yoghurt I can buy as I absolutely love the stuff on my pizza.

Thanks again John. Appreciate your time and helpfulness.

Tracey.

Hi Tracey,

Yoghurt: 8% - 5% = 3% presumably sucrose (50% fructose) or in some cases added fructose. Beat to stick with 5%. There are lots of Greek yoghurts - just read the labels.

I think David's recipes (on this site & in his books) include kosher sauces.

Good luck with chiropractor. I wouldn't let one touch my back with a 40-foot barge pole.

JohnN

24 May 2012 1:27 AM

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More about sauces - in Big Fat Lies pp 214-5 most of the popular sauces are listed. They range from 5% to 55% sugar; up to about 40% for chutney & relish. So perhaps you need to change your attitude to sauces or make your own using glucose instead of sugar.

I occasionally have say a teaspoonful of tomato, Worcestershire sauce or green chutney. But very occasionally.

JohnN

27 May 2012 11:00 PM

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8 days in and I've lost 1.5kg. Not bad at all considering. I haven't measured myself yet, might wait a month for that. I am definitely not eating less yet but I've always been a big eater. I have once again after many many years however started to eat breakfast again and I have to say how much I love my vege toast. I would have wheatbix or porridge if I could find something to put on it but I'll try the dextrose and see if that is sweet enough tomorrow. I tried a bit of cooking but overcooked the cake and now it's too dry, the dog liked it though. I am still craving a milo at night especially and about 3pm I was having some dry cake but I will try baking something else tonight. I would be wrapped to find something to replace my milo with but otherwise I'm doing fine and I made it through a weekend without putting 2kg on which is such a breakthrough for me because when I used to have a few wines over the weekend all my hard work during the week would go out the window. I'll stick to my low alcohol wines though as I figure they would have less sugar in them. Can anyone reccomend a low sugar beer for my husband? He is a Carlton Mid fan now but he's adaptable.