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Becoming fruit phobic??

  • 22 Sep 2012 8:31 PM
    Message # 1080236
    Deleted user
    Hi all, I'm new to this. Just getting around my new diet and doing pretty well with home baked wholegrain bread with dextrose powder - Nice! Vegimite and peanut butter are my favorite anyway, not being jam person. But:

    I like my portions of fruit a day as whole fruit. If we eat two 100gm portions then does that mean we should not have any other fructose even at extremely low % in the day. Seems to me I miss my fruit the most and now feel scared to eat it.

    If 2 portions is a maximum a day, is it alright to make smoothies with the whole fruit and natural yoghurt and dextrose as a breakfast meal? Surely we still need the Vit C in out fruit and it is far better than any shop fruit juices? 

    What about a banana. Are they too sweet to eat a whole one?

    Dried fruit is a no no right? as they are fructose concentrate. I miss my raisins in breads etc. Is a little bit ok or better to avoid altogether?

    I am finding I am getting low blood sugars and shakes quite often. Is this because I am not eating enough calories or because my insulin is doing its job better without the fructose suppression? I have dextrose in my coffee in the morning (1 1/2 tsp) and normally had a smoothie. Often skip breakfast now but have morning tea or crackers and cheese. Probably the crackers have sugar too? The label does say sugar 3.7 per 100 gms so is that is low isn't it? I also have switched to bacon and eggs or omlete, hope this is ok?

    Tomatoes, are they good or bad? Vegetable or fruit? 

    Also was looking at the Fodmap diet for IBS which includes low fructose and lactose free. Not sure if I need to go down this route but I discovered lactose free regular milk, regular soy milk and rice milk all have small percentage of sugar. How do you tell if this is in the natural form as carbohydrate or sugar replacement if it is just labelled under carbohydrate and sub section - sugar? Sometimes sugar is also under the ingredient list. If this is the case does this mean added sugar? I am now also confused about what lactose free milk to drink.

    I have so many questions and will appreciate any answers anyone may be able to offer.

    Cheers
  • 23 Sep 2012 1:29 AM
    Reply # 1080454 on 1080236
    Anonymous
    Grant Ingles wrote:Hi all, I'm new to this. Just getting around my new diet and doing pretty well with home baked wholegrain bread with dextrose powder - Nice! Vegimite and peanut butter are my favorite anyway, not being jam person. But:

    I like my portions of fruit a day as whole fruit. If we eat two 100gm portions then does that mean we should not have any other fructose even at extremely low % in the day. Seems to me I miss my fruit the most and now feel scared to eat it.

    If 2 portions is a maximum a day, is it alright to make smoothies with the whole fruit and natural yoghurt and dextrose as a breakfast meal? Surely we still need the Vit C in out fruit and it is far better than any shop fruit juices? 

    What about a banana. Are they too sweet to eat a whole one?

    Dried fruit is a no no right? as they are fructose concentrate. I miss my raisins in breads etc. Is a little bit ok or better to avoid altogether?

    I am finding I am getting low blood sugars and shakes quite often. Is this because I am not eating enough calories or because my insulin is doing its job better without the fructose suppression? I have dextrose in my coffee in the morning (1 1/2 tsp) and normally had a smoothie. Often skip breakfast now but have morning tea or crackers and cheese. Probably the crackers have sugar too? The label does say sugar 3.7 per 100 gms so is that is low isn't it? I also have switched to bacon and eggs or omlete, hope this is ok?

    Tomatoes, are they good or bad? Vegetable or fruit? 

    Also was looking at the Fodmap diet for IBS which includes low fructose and lactose free. Not sure if I need to go down this route but I discovered lactose free regular milk, regular soy milk and rice milk all have small percentage of sugar. How do you tell if this is in the natural form as carbohydrate or sugar replacement if it is just labelled under carbohydrate and sub section - sugar? Sometimes sugar is also under the ingredient list. If this is the case does this mean added sugar? I am now also confused about what lactose free milk to drink.

    I have so many questions and will appreciate any answers anyone may be able to offer.

    Cheers

    Grant,

    You are making it all a bit complicated.  If you do the maths based on the graphs on Pages 108 & 110 of Sweet Poison Quit Plan  you won't go far wrong. Just limit your fructose intake to 10g a day from all sources.

    • Choose Sanitarium PNB with "no added sugar or salt". It contains half the sugar of the normal variety.
    • Don't skip breakfast . . . you need an energy boost after 8 hours of no activity.
    • Tomatoes are about 2% fructose & low in fibre. So don't overdo them.
    • If sugar is on the ingredients list you can be sure it has been added. But in the Nutritional Information Panel, it could be inherent in the other ingredients.  In any case, if you stick to <2% "sugars"  you should be OK.
    • Soy products are bad news.

    This is all covered in DG's books and these  forums &/or Wikipedia.

    For additional information there is an excellent quasi-government web site with details of just about any food sold in Australia:  http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/scienceandeducation/factsheets/factsheetsaz.cfm

    Keep away from fruit juices . . .  they are concentrated fructose and it's like drinking fat!  You couldn't sit down and eat 6 granny smith apples. But you could drink them in a couple of  minutes. Also the juice has no fibre in it which, in the whole fruit, ameliorates the effect of the fructose.  Smoothies [which I think include the whole fruit] aren't quite so bad as the fibre is retained. But  only be an occasional treat.

    If you get low on glucose suck a couple of glucose tables which you can buy at the chemist's or the supermarket.

     JohnN

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